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Post by wolfvanzandt on Jul 6, 2013 13:06:58 GMT -6
Most of you know about this group. I try to support them because they seem honestly interested in finding answers about the community, they seem to want to benefit the community, and they're a peer reviewed academic group of mostly nonWeres (my contention is that, if you want a unbiased study of therianthropy, you don't want Weres - or not just Weres running it). So, they've started a new study and, if you're interested in participating, go to: www.therianthropyresearchgroup.org/index.php/current-studiesThey want to have a good selection from the offline community and, since this forum is a online gateway to the offline community, it's a good place to start.
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Post by moonbeam on Jul 7, 2013 0:36:28 GMT -6
In the first paragraph on the site to which that link leads, it states:
What psychiatric literature has suggested that therianthropy is a mental illness? Are they talking about clinical lycanthropy, or do they mean something else?
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Post by Lunar Flare on Jul 7, 2013 8:42:46 GMT -6
Thats a good question. If they get back to me, I will ask.
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Post by wolfvanzandt on Jul 7, 2013 12:22:30 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure they mean clinical lycanthropy. They brought up the same issue in the video. They're using the information they have, such as White Wolf's survey to generate research questions.
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Post by violet on Jul 13, 2013 14:11:10 GMT -6
It is clinical lycanthropy being talked about and they are using whatever resources they can whilst also utilising the therians they have on board the research group. Tim Grivell's dissertation is the starting point for this current research and I personally cannot wait to see it finally get published. I know its been tough getting it ready for publication. Worth it though as it is the first piece of research not focusing on the spiritual or religious aspects of therianthropy but on identity and experiences.
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Post by twoworlds on Jul 13, 2013 17:29:54 GMT -6
Clinical lycanthropy is no longer a recognized illness. I know a fox that was diagnosed with it and part of the reason she is getting it removed is that it is no longer recognized. They changed it to something else and grouped it with multiple personalities or whatever they call that and another similar diagnosis having to do with schizophrenia. What the shinny new terms are I have no idea.
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Post by wolfvanzandt on Jul 13, 2013 23:19:37 GMT -6
My impression is that clinical lycanthropy is therianthropy with some mental illness tagged on. To appropriately diagnose the actual illness, you would have to subtract the therianthropy and look at the actual illness. Hopefully, the profession is beginning to understand that and, if not, maybe this research will help them.
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Post by Siverwolf on Jul 14, 2013 10:59:09 GMT -6
I would agree that clinical lycanthropy is not a mental illness, if it's in a functional state of stabilty. It can be if it's not.
It's a more of an evolved state of being, at least mentally.
Siverwolf.
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Post by wolfvanzandt on Jul 14, 2013 11:38:49 GMT -6
"Clinical" in "clinical lycanthropy" means that the condition has caused a person to present themselves for treatment (as, "at a clinic"). So, if it's "clinical" the assumption is that it is dysfunctional. That's the problem - I consider the term a misnomer.
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Post by violet on Jul 16, 2013 11:02:37 GMT -6
If anyone is interested in the papers etc being used for the study relating to clinical lycanthropy, here's the details:
In the study by Grivell, Clegg & Roxburgh (accepted) the participants appeared to be psychologically well. This contrasts with the psychiatric literature on clinical lycanthropy. Whilst some academics make a distinction between lycanthropy and therianthropy in terms of lycanthropy being the belief in actual physical transformation (Garlipp, 2007), others do not make this distinction and consider the terms interchangeable (Keck et al, 1988). The diagnostic criteria suggest that clinical lycanthropy can be considered if the patient states that they have changed into an animal or if they behave in a way which suggests that they believe that they have transformed (Keck et al, 1988). The descriptions of experiencing mental shifts, from some of our participants, would, if observed by clinicians, be classed as clinical lycanthropy under this definition but we feel that this would be pathologising an experience that does not appear to be indicative of mental illness in our participants. Since in all populations mental illness is present then it is entirely possible that at least some of those patients in the psychiatric literature are therians with a mental illness who find it more difficult to control their therianthropic experiences when unwell, rather than it being part of their mental illness. This, of course, requires further investigation. References Garlipp, P. (2007). Lycanthropy. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 15(2), 161. Keck, P. E., Pope, H. G., Hudson, J. I., McElroy, S. L., & Kulick, A. R. (1988). Lycanthropy: Alive and well in the twentieth century. Psychological Medicine; Psychol.Med., 18(1), 113-120.
Bibliograhy Bou Khalil, R., Dahdah, P. & Richa, S. 2012. Lycanthropy as a cultural-bound syndrome: a case report and review of the literature. Journal of Psychiatric Practice. 18(1), 51-54. Coll, P. G., & O'Sullivan, G. & Browne, P.J. (1985). Lycanthropy lives on. British Journal of Psychiatry, 147, 201-202. Garlipp, P., Gödecke-Koch, T., Dietrich, D.E. & Haltenhof, H. (2004). Lycanthropy – psychopathological and psychodynamical perspectives. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica,109, 19-22. Silva, J.A. & Leong, G.B. (2005). Lycanthropy and delusional misidentification. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica,111, 162. Younis, A. A., & Moselhy, H. F. (2009). Lycanthropy alive in Babylon: The existence of archetype. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 119(2), 161-164.
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Post by wolfvanzandt on Jul 16, 2013 19:08:10 GMT -6
I look forward to the publication.
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Post by twoworlds on Jul 21, 2013 15:03:01 GMT -6
I do too. In ways this is exciting.
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